What I'm concerned with is the EPS contraction in the fourth quarter. In Q3, I'd noted that EPS growth was only 2%. In Q4, EPS was Rs. 5.68 versus Rs. 6.2 in Q4 FY07. This is an EPS contraction of 52 paise, or nearly 9%.
Note that again, carefully: EPS growth in Q3 was 2%, and in Q4, EPS growth was a NEGATIVE 9%. Slowdown, anyone?
Now for the financial year, diluted EPS was Rs. 32 versus Rs. 30.75 last year. That's a 4% growth. At current price of Rs. 916, you are paying a P/E of 28 for this company. Now 28 P/E for slowing growth is a tad high, huh?
(Note that the official result statements show some 39% growth in profits. But that is an absolute number - they raised 20,000 cr. last year, which diluted the capital severely. If growth can only come from capital expansions, then we shouldn't be paying this kind of P/E.)
Having said that - let's conider the "weighted average EPS", which has grown to 39.4 from 34.8, which is a 13.2% increase. Again, way lower than P/E. What's more scary is that EPS growth is really slowing down in a quarterly manner.
Other points:
- Growth from UK and Canada is huge. Is this subject to a slowdown in those countries? Time will tell.
- Impressive growth on the Mutual fund and Brokerage subsediaries.
- Insurance is unimpressive. The numbers don't seem to provide too much confidence in the businesses. Insurance actually lost a heck of a lot of money (1500 cr.) which may be good to demerge.
- Coming to demergers, there wasn't much that was heard of the demerging of the mutual fund, insurance and brokerage subsediaries. Any news?
- Retail credit growth may be suspect because of the home loan squeeze and generally high asset prices.
- ICICI Bank has provisioned a further Rs. 400 cr. for this quarter's mark-to-market losses. In my earlier post we had seen this figure being switched back and forth. But now they are clear - 280 cr. earlier to this quarter, and another 400 cr. now.
- ICICI refuses to mention what derivative losses it's clients have. That's ok, they don't have to. It's their clients that lost money.
- What's weird is that they mention that they have some customers who have filed legal cases against them. And they have provisioned some money against such cases. They have specifically not mentioned how much the provision was, and the potential impact of these cases. Beware the unsaid words - they will come back and bite.
Note: This is not a bad company - it's not going to be bankrupt. It has a lot of assets, and capital to support itself. But it cannot command such valuations with obvious growth pressure. The company is consolidating and the stock needs to do so as well. At the current price, there's not much more left to go - but take 1/3rd off and maybe there's a story.
Update 27/4/08: ICICI Bank's 1 hour conf call provided more details.
- IPOs not planned until they get a "fair value" for the subsediaries.
- There was some difference between the way Prudential valued the exposure in insurance to the way ICICI did it. The reason mentioned was that the actuarial fundas were different (we are a growing economy etc.) for the two players. I am not very convinced. This is going to be an Achilles heel unless ICICI gets rid of it through an IPO.
Banks and Corporates fight it out over derivatives. Banks will lose either way.
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Second, ICICI bank can't sell them a derivative if it's a speculatory hedge - because the RBI bans those if not traded on an exchange. Most of these contracts are OTC - over the counter - products, which are ok for a hedge, but not really for the kind of contracts that have been taken which are simply speculation. If the corporates prove that the contract was illegal, they cannot be enforced and the banks are left holding the loss.
So two things work against banks - that the contract may be deemed invalid because it's illegal, or that they missold the product. If the court ruling is for Sundaram, expect a huge number of cases against the banks.
What are the other options? Out of court settlement. This will necessarily be in favour of the corporate - as obviously the payment will be much lesser than the demand (why settle otherwise?) Even there, there will be more such cases by other corporates who know they can get away with paying less.
Lastly, what if ICICI wins? They may not get the full money - in this case, the company may be bankrupt and only part of the money may be recovered. But after this, no one will deal with ICICI for derivatives; that means a huge reduction in fee and treasury income. With credit growth slowing and now fee/treasury income also impacted, the net impact on banks is negative.
This is very bad for the big P/E banks. If anything it is good for the traditional, conservative banks, who are likely to get the business. They're all at P/Es of 6 and 7 and such, and growing reasonably - like Corporation Bank. (But these PSUs suffer on account of the government's policies so risk isn't small)
(Note: Canara Bank just announced bad results. Will cover that separately.)
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