The yield of the 10 year G-Sec, a benchmark in a way, is at 5.27% as per Reuters.
Indian federal bond yields tumbled to their lowest since May 2004 on Tuesday as expectations grew the central bank would cut rates, while speculation of a reduction in fuel prices lifted sentiment for debt.I want to chart this stuff - I think the prices are at all time highs for the 2018 bond and the 2036 bond. Not only have the 10 year bond prices risen (by 1%), the rise in prices of the longer term bonds is spectacular - nearly 2%. This kind of move is an earth shattering event usually, but we all know that these are not usual times.The benchmark 10-year bond yield
closed at 5.27 percent after touching an intraday low of 5.25 percent, its lowest since May 2004. It had closed at 5.55 percent on Monday.
Gilt funds should go strongly up. I've already got a 10% return on my (phased) investment into the ICICI Prudential Gilt Plan, in 1.5 months. I'm holding for another 20-30% return within a year.
Note: I have been told by two people now that ICICI's mutual fund arm is pushing it's "income plan" whenever they want to invest in the Gilt fund. The income plan has much higher costs (the fees are 2x the Gilt plan, nearly) and invests a good chunk in corporate bonds too. Now they say corp bond yields will come down as well, because the spread is too high. If you look at the US - a much more developed market - corp bond yields are still very high and gilt yields are at all time lows. The spread need not ever come down, and in India we will see our share of corp defaults.
Plus the income fund has a 2% exit load (versus only 0.75% for the gilt fund).
So I would never go with the income plan - I'd stick with the basis. Gilt is gilt, and only gilt.
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>Hi Deepak,
Your call for gilt investment was fantastic. I too invested in gilt after ward and got benefits. Thanks a lot.
But I don’t know when to come out of it. Is it when the rates start rising or the fund stats showing continuous loss for a month or so?? I would appreciate if you could tell also when to come out as to save the profit and the invested.
Thanks and regards,
Anoop
12.31.08 at 8:02 AM
>Will do…I don’t know when to exit either but I will start thinking about it when RBI cuts rates to at least 4-4.5%
12.31.08 at 8:10 AM
>Hi Deepak
What investment horizon would you recommend (over a year or less) and which option – dividend or growth?
Would it make sense to invest in Gilt funds now or it is too late?
Regards
Saurabh
12.31.08 at 9:33 AM
>Thanks Deepak – the analysis was useful and timely. I have added some more amount based on your update. Will keep a watch for more from your side.
01.01.09 at 2:26 PM
>Hi Deepak,
Appreciate your work! I am interested in knowing the impact of this ongoing Israel Palestine crisis, on these funds. As to what i assume, this will lead to increase in oil prices, which will again increase inflation figures. So, can we have a interest rate hike if this continues???
01.03.09 at 7:11 AM
>oil prices are down due to lack of demand, not supply…I don’t expect inflation to go up at all, infact we’er likely to deflate. But yes if inflation goes to 8% again we will see a hike. Just that it doesn’t look likely.
01.03.09 at 7:20 AM
>thank you for the reply. appreciate it! so, increase in oil prices might be a good exit signal! or rise in inflation figures. anything! We can safely hold till then.
01.03.09 at 7:48 AM
>Deepak,
Can you add a rss feed for comments to your blog? Some are useful
Thanks
01.03.09 at 7:11 PM
>Hi Deepak,
The bond yields have risen to 5.17% after the rate cut announcement. What do you see as the short and medium term impact on income and gilt funds?
Cheers
01.06.09 at 2:11 AM
>Ashu: have added a comment feed at http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheIndianInvestorsBlogComments
Also, bond yields: Likely to stay between 5 and 5.5%. Rallies and dips will happen, because a lot of people are trading, but I am keeping the RBI repo rate as a stop loss trigger.
01.06.09 at 5:32 AM
>Hi,
It was fantastic, just wondering do you have any idea where can i get Gsec yield data for free.
Regards,
Roy
02.05.09 at 12:15 PM
>http://www.ccilindia.com/OMHome.aspx – historical through rbi.org.in.
02.05.09 at 12:40 PM