Off Topic: Global Warming Emails Reveal Potential Fraud

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The Global Warming debate has just gotten more intense. Recently, a major GW advocacy center, the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit was hacked into, and about 62 MB worth of email communication and other data was "made available" on a public FTP server in Russia.

No big deal? Well, it turns out that the emails reveal a sinister plot - that scientists were "fudging" or deleting or hiding data in order to prove their point, which is that Global Warming exists. One email talks about a scientist applying "tricks" to make sure the data would "hide the decline", referring to temperatures - you can't have declining temperatures in a global warming paper, can you? Others talked about how it was a "travesty" that they can't account for the lack of warming - so instead of questioning if there is global warming, they question the data.

If these guys were in the stock market, they would start by saying the market is wrong, so let's assume that prices are much higher than they are today, because they should be.

But I digress.

Excellent reads on the topic are:

I'm hugely skeptical about global warming, in the sense that we cause it and that we can do anythign to reverse it. Specifically three questions are of concern:
  • Are we warming? Sure it seems like that in some cities, but not really - Delhi has had 48 degree summers for a long time, which is more than what we see today. Bangalore has been much cooler the last two years. And globally, even with the CRU data, we seem to be cooling at the surface level over the last 10 years - a fact mentioned in one of those emails as a problem because it couldn't be explained by the global warming theory.

    Still, you could manipulate the data into believing we are warming. But I'm unconvinced until data shows up - the lack of unified data points is niggling.

  • If we are warming, are we warming too much? Most studies take the last 1000 years or so - which is ridiculously small. And even there, the data is very shady - the last few years' data is highly suspect because the metrics keep changing. First, the 1000 year problem.

    Consider this: If the entire Earth's history was condensed into 24 hours, then dinosaurs would appear at 10:40 pm (imagine!) and home sapiens have lasted about 4 seconds. All of recorded history - 5000 years - is in one-tenth of a second. The last 1000 years are about 20 milliseconds on that scale. Can you imagine anyone predicting anything about "global warming" based on SUCH RIDICULOUSLY INSIGNIFICANT DATA POINTS?

    And then you have the shady data problem. From bad locations of weather stations, to unreliable stratospheric measurements, to refusing to admit data/analysis if it's not a published in a "peer reviewed" journal, even if the work is correct. Now it's even worse with CRU folks saying on emails that they're happy to hide any data that refutes the hypothesis; and will take legal help to do so.

    (Read McIntyre's blog, Climate Audit, for some views)

  • And lastly, have we done anything to influence global warming? I have my doubts. The data aspects of it all are too long to type, but it's evident to me that we are blind to long term phenomena simply because we don't have enough of a window, in any timeframe that is significant to the lifespan of cold and hot cycles of the earth. That means things might seem like they're happening now (even if you take the claims that we are warming at face value) but it doesn't mean that they wouldn't have happened - we simply seem to be consistent with small margins of error up or down when you look at the 10,000 year picture.

    Instead we focus on carbon - stupid thing to do, IMHO, carbon dioxide is actually good and isn't quite indicative of warming (CO2 levels have been going up in the last 100 years but surface temperatures have not). Wouldn't it be better to learn to live with the impact of warming, rather than spending so much money trying to curb CO2 emissions?

    For the record, pollutants are horrible and those need to go. But good ole CO2, cutting that out is a out of line.

I'm a skeptic and not entirely on the other side, so I'm happy to be corrected. I am totally not interested in statements like "this scientist says this, and he is reputed and has 30 years of experience and has so many papers published bla bla bla". That kind of crap doesn't work - reputed people have been known to be wrong, and they have been wrong in the climate debate many times too. I hate ad-hominem arguments, so I'd rather focus on the argument.

And earlier climate scientists used to say that the skeptics are funded by the oil companies and so the incentives are all wrong. Well, with the amount of funding and reputation that global warming brings today, the incentives are all wrong on the other side too; for a GW scientist to say "there is no global warming, our data says it" is career suicide, and they will do what is needed to protect their turf, as is evident from the email leaks. So: Suspect everything, trust nothing.

Well, if the world doesn't agree and still goes nuts on CO2, I'll do my bit for global warming by breathing in more often than I breathe out. Or I'll fudge the data to say I did so.

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10 comments “Off Topic: Global Warming Emails Reveal Potential Fraud”

>One – If there was no warming, Maldives wouldn't be sinking.

Two – Regardless of the warming / no warming arguments, the responses towards climate change all seem to be for the better than worse…. like green energy, moving away from oil which is good for our economy, preservation of forests etc…. So might as well get on with it.

>Timely release of such nonsense before the Copenhagen Summit on Climate Change (Dec. 7th – 18). Will it change the overwhelming opinion about Climate Change? No.

Industrialied Countries may try to use this Nonsense to counter reduction of per capita emission of Greenhouse Gases and Warming. Frugal India is one of the lowest in terms of per capita emission.

Britain (US Colony in Europe) will dish out all such Nonsense in favour of their Masters.

MK

>Hi Deepak,

I doubt your first statement, i feel it IS getting warmer. Maybe the last 2 years may have been slightly different but as you yourself point out in your 2nd argument, we need to consider larger time scales.
Your third point is bit technical and i dont have the required competency to comment on that, however my gut feel says that since industrialization and its effects are definitely not natural hence they should effect negatively only..
Rgds,
Mayank

>Warming or not it will be wiser to curb unnecessary consumption and environment harming practices. Look at the pictures from China. http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/
It won't hurt to keep air, water and land clean as possible.

>Bjørn Lomborg made a detailed argument through his book called "The Skeptical Environmentalist", not just against global warming, but other similar scientific theories. That did upset a lot of such scientists :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Skeptical_Environmentalist

>Good article Deepak.
I myself am a sceptic and had similar questions. Some of them I have been able to answer, but not all.

1. 'for a GW scientist to say "there is no global warming'

Technically speaking, there is no GW scientist. There are environment scientists. Even if some new theory/model comes up which predicts global cooling / wetting/exploding or any other climatic effect, these scientists would be the most qualified to understand, evaluate and explain to us the new theory and its implications. So, it will not exactly be a career suicide.

But yes, prejudice sometimes affects a whole industry. E.g. Einstein, in spite of his genius and his best intentions, spent 2 decades in a fruitless and pointless attempt to disprove Quantum Mechanics – "God does not play dice with the Universe".

2. 'IMHO, carbon dioxide is actually good'

Very misleading. The question is not of good or bad of the gas. Excess of oxygen is as bad as that of carbon dioxide. 0.036% CO2 is good/neutral. We have just not evolved to take in CO2 levels more than 20% so that may be bad.

3. 'Wouldn't it be better to learn to live with the impact of warming'

It is easy for us to say this. But in past few thousand years when sea-water has receded because of "Global cooling", humans have occupied much of low altitude areas – e.g. Bangladesh,Maldives etc. Such people are screwed in case of global warming. Whether it is ethical to save money/effort by eliminating whole cultures/countries is debatable. Myself, I am not sure if it is right.

4. "Are we warming"
You are right, we have no clue whether we are warming. The whole field has become so politicized so it is impossible to trust any data. But general observation is of warming because – land use. One thing is certain, cutting a forest and making a concrete/asphalt jungle definitely increases local temperature. As more and more people are moving to cities, they feel temperatures are rising. And they attribute it to "global" warming, when it can possibly be "local" warming because of land use.

>Deepak, you hit the nail.
Damn right.
As you said greenism has become a religion and these days people go extreme protecting their religion,however rubbish it may be.

I agree completely clean water, air and reduced pollution is welcome and required.

>Hi Deepak,

While sitting in Delhi you won't understand the impact of couple of degree change, perhaps someone at higher latitudes would help you understand its implication.

Here just tab above boston, ponds use to freeze in mid oct. As a child in 70s, we could skate on them. Fast forward 2000s, we would be lucky to see them freeze even few inches on top.

Up here in New Hamsphire, maple trees do not get ready to sap until late fall (while I remember that happening in late summer).

in 70s Christmas meant snow, it was synonymous, and now we just feel gods gift if we have one.

So dipping your hand in hot water will not tell you whether it is hot or cold. It will remain hot. Because you do know what is cold. I bet you would have not seen more than two seasons (rain/hot).

Before you dish out such an irresponsible article questioning GW, you better expand your horizon and check it out in proper context. Come out our hole and look beyond your nose.

Otherwise than this, you have a good blog.

>Thanks for the comments – the GW folk have just released the raw data and it'll be useful to see how that has moved over the last few years. Right now there is the El Nino and La Nina effects that warm/cool the world – and the oceans are cooling though we don't know if it's that effect.

The mid-term 18,000 year cycle wise – we are not anywhere close to, or beyond the SD of the warming curve. There was a "mini" ice age about 300 years ago, and we should be warming from then regardless of human input.

This issue is too complex to discuss in a comment – shall be looking at more data as it comes along. Happy to change my view – am just skeptical, not yet convinced either ways.

>In case of wind power, its quite dangerous to harness the wind. The energy in the wind is made to turn the rotors hence the wind loses its energy which in turn would not cause showers in some areas. So then who will be responsible?


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