Archive for January, 2010

SBI Results Dissappoint

No Comments » Written on January 25th, 2010 by
Categories: SBI

State Bank of India had its results out today. After a pretty lousy Q3 in FY 2009, one would have expected great things this year – the low base effect.

But the results are surprisingly bad. Consolidated revenues were at 32,231 crores (up 6%) but profit after tax was at 3305 cr. (down 8.3%). EPS was Rs. 52.05, taking the first nine month EPS to 144. The problems: Higher NPAs and 3x higher provisioning/low coverage. NPAs went up to 18,861 crore (gross) and 11,270 cr. (net) both near double digit increases.

SBI is a wait and watch stock, and while I wouldn’t go long yet, the current price of 2091 talks a p/e of 11 on an EPS of nearly 190 .  That’s not bad considering the overall high price of ICICI and HDFC Bank (both above 20).

Markets Stick Their Head Above 5000

No Comments » Written on January 25th, 2010 by
Categories: Uncategorized

The markets stayed weak today as results came in, and despite going below the 5,000 level a few times in the day, the Nifty recovered to hover just above it at 5007.

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The good news is that the recent results have boosted Nifty’s P/E to 230, which is a reasonable move. With the same time last year showing a sudden DIP in the EPS, the Nifty EPS growth has suddenly shot up to 6%. Here’s a normalized P/E graph (normalized P/E = p/e one year ago to what the real EPS growth was 12 months later)

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Note though that the current P/E ratio is 21.07.

As you can see above – the gap between normalized P/E and EPS growth noted is huge – that’s an indication that markets can remain irrationally valued for large stretches of time. It’s also likely, that irrationality will kick in on the other side – EPS will keep growing fast, but the P/E will stay depressed, like in 2003-04.

Suckered: 100% commissions with Kotak Smart Advantage plan

7 comments Written on January 25th, 2010 by
Categories: Suckered, ULIP

ULIP Advisors just do not know how to stop. Someone who harvested phone numbers from random sources calls me and says he’s from Kotak and selling me a plan that is (Hold your breath) NOT A ULIP. According to him it’s a plan where:

  • You can invest 20,000 rupees now and get Rs. 40,000 in three years.
  • How? You get a 100% bonus after three years in this policy
  • You don’t need to pay any further premiums

Unlike his usual bakras, I asked him for a document, and he sends me the Kotak Smart Advantage Plan.

Point 3 was him bullshitting, of course. It turns out that you have to pay premium for three years, and they give you a 100% bonus. Nice? BUT, and there’s always a BUT, you have to stay with the fund for another 17 years before you can see the money. You can’t withdraw more than 10% of the fund value in any year, and if you choose to surrender the policy before the 8th year, you can see surrender charges from 5% to 1%.

And for the first year, guess how much of your money gets invested? 0. ZERO. Zilch. Not a single naya paisa.

The document says:

The first year premium contributes towards guaranteeing you with the Assured Addition Advantage and is not allocated to the investment funds.

Yay! 100% commissions!

Or, the whole 100% “bonus” is just a load of bull. They take your money for three years, “remove” the first years premium and give it back to you as a bonus. That’s utterly misleading – what is IRDA doing, sleeping?

And why the heck are these products being bought? Please, if you get a call from Kotak advisors pushing this product as a “bonus”, please tell them to take a walk.

Update: Also see Ripul Gupta’s post at MoneyRaam about this plan.

Nifty drops 4.5% or 230 points last week

1 Comment » Written on January 24th, 2010 by
Categories: Uncategorized

The NSE Nifty drops about 4.5% since it hovered around the 5275 levels early last week – with the last four days being falls on higher volumes.

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The Reliance results – spectacular in their increase in profits – saved the day on Friday, with the index going below the 5000 levels briefly before it recovered to 5036.

Futures and options turnover was very high – in fact, the second highest on record, at 132,000 crores. But cash turnover wasn’t all that great – so the action may be a trading move for now.

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What happened really? Obama called for limiting the size and risk of banks in the US and US markets tankeimaged – in fact, they have fallen nearly 6% in the last three days. The proposals limit lending to hedge funds and more importantly prohibit banks from trading for profit. Meaning – prop operations at bank companies like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley will have to go. Since thes banks generate substantial volume through its prop trading, there is reason to believe that the lack of their liquidity will be bad for markets. Though, let’s be honest, what’s bad for markets may not be bad for the economy.

If this rule goes through it will not mean a stop on trading – what it will mean is a demarcation between banking and trading. That means people who trade cannot leverage the value of an identity that is known for staid banking – i.e. loans and deposits – and instead, will have to finance themselves solely on their own merits. The best traders won’t have a problem with that – and will set up their own shops, and gather money to trade. Trading, after all, hasn’t been banned. Banks will go back to being banks rather than hedge funds, making later rescue efforts, if required, highly palatable.

Volcker has had that view for a while and overall, I agree. It does destroy any hopes of a career as a high flying trader with a bank and access to literally unlimited capital; but I can’t be bothered, risk is risk and if the banks don’t stop trading with taxpayer guarantees, the rest of the trading field will forever be marginalized.

Anyhow, that’s supposedly the reason Indian markets fell too, anticipating fund flow outwards. Which has happened, it seems – the Rupee has fallen nearly 3% to around 46.3, and FIIs sold over 2400 crores of cash stocks on Friday (though Domestic institutions bought nearly 2,000 crores to offset that). Technically, there’s weakness – we are close to the 100 day average, a key support level at around 4950 and the Dow has broken it’s 50 day average (key for that market). The next few days, to say it lightly, will be interesting.

NPS offers Tier 2 Accounts

7 comments Written on January 21st, 2010 by
Categories: NPS

The New Pension Scheme (NPS)* , after letting everyone in on it’s Tier 1 account, offers a Tier 2 account now.

Recall that the Tier 1 account was not withdrawable – you put money in, it stays in till retirement, and then you put 40% of the corpus as an annuity and the rest you can take out (but is fully taxed when you do).

The annuity is a pain – as I’ve mentioned, annuity rates are very low in India. Plus, the non availability of money in the interim is a mess as well; what happens if you have an emergency, and you need cash urgently? Like a medical situation where the retirement money is hardly worth saving instead of saving a loved one? Or a time when you simply want to retire and enjoy yourself, but you’re not 60 yet? (Note: You try to withdraw from a Tier 1 account before you’re 60, they make you put 80% into the annuity. Another collossal waste of money)

The best outcome, really, is to die. Then your spouse gets all the money as a lumpsum, no annuity and all that. But that doesn’t work out quite that well for you.

The Tier 2 lets you get a better outcome without needing to die. Anything that you don’t need to die for is a good thing; regardless of what Bryan Adams might sing.

With Tier 2, you can withdraw the money anytime, and any amount. Only, you need an active Tier1 account to open a Tier 2 account. You can transfer money from Tier 2 to Tier 1 as well. NPS has a silly need to transact four times a year at least – but if you put the money into the Tier 2 account, you can simply instruct a transfer (hopefully, online) and that should work for the minimums.

There’s a minimum account balance of Rs. 2,000 (you can start with 1,000 and put in four contributions of Rs. 250 each). You don’t get charged the annual maintenance fee of Rs. 350 that Tier 1 charges, but you pay about Rs. 30 per transaction. Fund choices, management fees etc. remain the same.

The NPS has returned over 12% as of September 2009, managing government employee funds. The regular returns for non-govt. will be higher from the high equity component. The post tax returns are quite attractive, though perhaps not comparable to ELSS. Add the low management fees, the zero entry and exit loads and the no annuity requirement; as a stable retirement product NPS Tier 2 looks like it will rock.

* When will they stop calling it “New”?

Reader Comment: PPF Interest Calculation

5 comments Written on January 21st, 2010 by
Categories: PersonalFinance

There was a doubt from a commenter:

One question regarding PPF.
http://www.rediff.com/getahead/2005/may/06ppf.htm

Please read "How to make it work to your benefit."
What they are saying is that interest is calculated only in the month of March. I find it very surprising if that is the case. And I typically put 70k in April itself so am I effectively losing money?

From the PPF Rules:

Interest - Interest at the rate , notified by the Central Government in
official gazette from time to time, shall be allowed for calendar month on the
lowest balance at credit of an account between the close of the fifth day and
the end of the month and shall be credited to the account at the end of each
year.

Meaning- the interest is calculated for every month. It’s only credited at the end of each year. So if you put in Rs. 5000 on the first of every month, the interest calculation will be:

April: Principal of Rs. 5,000 
May: Principal of Rs. 10,000
June: Principal of Rs. 15,000

and so on. The funda is that the interest in April will not apply as principal for May. Only next March, the entire interest for the year is calculated, and then is applicable for the principal starting the next April.

Credit Growth Hits 13%, RBI allows Corp Bond Repo

No Comments » Written on January 21st, 2010 by
Categories: Credit

Credit Growth as of Jan 1, 2009 was at 13.61% year on year, with total outstanding credit crossing 30 trillion rupees for the first time ever.

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It’s the lowest growth in five years though it’s starting to perk up. Banks are starting to lend again, it seems.  There are interesting regulations out there that will change the lending framework.

From bank lending direct, corporates may choose to borrow from the market through corporate bonds, a market that has seen very little focus. But that’s starting to change. RBI has just allowed repo on Corp bonds. Repo means Repurchase agreement, and is typically used as collateral while borrowing (“You buy these bonds from me, I repurchase from you at same price+interest”) So anyone with corporate bonds in their portfolio can use it for borrowing, starting March 2010. Why was it not allowed earlier, you might ask, and Tamal Bandyopadhyay writes on LiveMint about the history:

After serious irregularities in securities transactions that led to India’s biggest stock market scam in 1992, RBI came down heavily on such deals, but the restriction on repo existed even before the scam. A June 1969 government notification, under section 16 of the Securities Contract (Regulation) Act, 1956, prohibits any person from entering a repo deal without its permission. Globally, central banks use this short-term instrument to iron out excessive volatility in the money market. In India, too, RBI has been doing this and it is the sole authority to regulate this market.

In 1987, it even said that the units of the erstwhile Unit Trust of India, the country’s oldest mutual fund and a proxy for any sovereign paper, could not be used as collateral for repo deals. As the repo market grew phenomenally and there was rampant misuse of the facility, in 1988 RBI prohibited banks from entering into repo deals with non-bank clients.

In fact, the genesis of the 1992 stock market scam was a thriving repo market. Some banks used repos to understate their actual liabilities, by advising non-bank customers to lend them money by way of repos instead of placing the same in the form of deposits. There were others who first committed to borrow through repo deals and later invested the funds in securities. In many cases, commitments to repurchase or resell the securities were not even documented. RBI banned repo deals and barred banks from undertaking repos in government bonds and other approved securities with effect from 22 June 1992. Repos in treasury bills, however, were exempted from the prohibition. The restrictions were lifted in phases. In 1995-96, RBI partially reopened the market only for specified government securities, but only banks and primary dealers that buy and sell government securities were allowed to strike repo deals. At the second stage, in 1997-98, all government securities and treasury bills were made repoable and in 2003, mutual funds were allowed into this segment.

Now double-A and better rated corporate bonds are being made repoable but certificates of deposit, commercial paper, and non-convertible debentures of less than one-year tenure will not be eligible for undertaking repos.

Apart from this there are no FII limits on investing in corporate bonds (or it’s an obscenely huge number) – versus foreign investment in govt. debt being capped at a very low number ($200m per entity).

If the corp bond market develops, bank lending may not be a good enough measure. We’ll have to see the overall credit growth picture, which RBI may need to provide in their reporting more often.

“Capital Mind” is the New Blog Title

4 comments Written on January 21st, 2010 by
Categories: Uncategorized

From “The Indian Investor’s Blog” this is now “Capital Mind”. After nearly 8 years the name deserved to change and eventually needs to get it’s own URL.

Just a quick post in case you saw things change and wondered if your browser screwed up.