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Strangle update: booked some puts, still hold calls

4 comments Written on October 28th, 2008 by
Categories: Strangle
I bought a 2850/2900 November strangle on Friday, as per my last post, for Rs. 500 total.

I'm in Delhi on a week's holiday so I placed some orders to take care of huge moves...and the orders went through - half my puts are out at Rs. 550 each. I still own half the puts, and all the calls, and I've covered 55% of my total cost - marked to market it's still only a 20% profit or so.

I have to figure out how to create a system out of this...A profit target of 30% each way should work, I think, but this requires some rigour now.

Strangle Trades: Very interesting results

3 comments Written on October 24th, 2008 by
Categories: Options, Strangle, TradingSystems
I have been looking at Nifty strangles for a while and the results seem to be very encouraging. Essentially it's about buying an option strangle - a lower strike put and a higher strike call - near the money, for a quick turnaround in these markets.

I'd mentioned last about a 50% return, and later a 38% return, on a September strangle, which were reasonable. Those were based on a hypothesis that the Nifty moves dramatically after being range bound for a few months. (And how that is true in October!)

This month, I decided to start off with a strangle. And then chickened out. A 4000 call/3800 put strangle cost me Rs. 287. I sold out for Rs. 249, incurring a 20% loss. In hindsight I would have got over 1400 for it if I had held till now - but that's teaching me a lesson. (Remember this is per lot of Nifty, size 50 each)

I then decided when the Nifty moved a lot, that implied volatilities were through the roof. the Nifty was around 3300 then - so I said, heck, the Nifty isn't sticking around here too long. So a 3300/3400 strangle was bought, for Rs. 135/123 - a total of Rs. 258 per Nifty - on a per-lot level, this is an investment of about 12500. (I usually buy larger quantities, and there is enough liquidity to take in enough)

The idea was to hit the strangles when the IV was very high and the market had just moved a considerable amount, and the target was around 30%.

Sure enough, the Nifty went down to 3050 in a couple days, netting me Rs. 335 on the return side - I cashed in, with a 30% return.

And today I saw the volatility going nuts again, and I bought yet another strangle - this time a November 2850 put, 2900 call - for a premium of Rs. 500 total. And that is up to about Rs. 570 today, though I still have a 30% target.

I'm now considering systematising this - a) buy strangles when the market stays rangebound for over two months, and b) buy strangles when the IV goes to ridiculous highs (like 55+).

I know the first part has had very good results in the recent past. I also know the second part has worked recently too. It will be interesting to see if the theories still hold.

Also need to investigate optimum profit targets (or a trailing stop loss) and an optimum holding period. Can't initiate a strangle in the last few days of expiry - that's one thing I've learnt.

Position sizing here is tough. Since premium is very very volatile, you can't put all your money in there - perhaps 10-15% of the money goes in each time. So even a 30% return is like a 3% return on your whole portfolio - still decent. I need to experiment with various levels. But the preliminary tests are very interesting.

Another Strangle: 38% this time

No Comments » Written on September 18th, 2008 by
Categories: Options, Strangle, TradingSystems
Continuing a strangle strategy: A strangle bought two days ago - when the index was near 4100, a figure too close to comfort from the 4210 closing last expiry - yielded a 38% profit today. A 4000 put and 4200 call were bought at a premium of Rs. 67 each - a net premium of Rs. 134 - or Rs. 6700 per contract.

Today the Nifty is around 3870, and the effective premiums were 167 (put) and 19 (call). A net sell value of Rs. 186, which translates to a 38% return in a couple days.

There's probably mood for one more of these, should the nifty come back close to 4200.

Note: This is not portfolio advice. I was willing to lose 100% on the trade, remember that.

Strangle Strategy – 50% gain on a low frequency system

1 Comment » Written on September 15th, 2008 by
Categories: Options, Strangle, TradingSystems
I wrote about a Straddle/Strangle strategy in the early part of the month, saying that if the spread narrowed I would pick it up, because we were ripe for a large move.

So last thursday, with the Nifty around 4300, I bought a 4200 put and a 4400 call, for about Rs. 80 each. The idea was that a big move had to happen either in September or October, because three expiries - June, July and August - were at 4200-4300. I paid Rs. 160 per nifty - a per contract cost of Rs. 8000.

Today the 4200 put quoted at 225 and the 4400 call at 20, giving me a net return of Rs. 245 - a 50% return in a few days. Now I wouldn't bet my entire capital on such a system - given that it sets up once in a while and can take two months to return money. But even then, an appropriate strategy for such situations (and other strategies for others ) can provide a 40-50% return in a very short period. Most of the other time you can put the cash into a liquid fund to get your average 7-8%.

We've got a few such setups - that don't occur very often, but when they do, they seem to provide a very very good return. Our aim is to build a big database of them, so we will get at least one setup a month - and that, as a combined system, will give us good returns. It's not difficult to automate - but the challenge is in analysing and following up such systems with real money.

If you're a reader that got excited with the "50%" figure, note that this is not something you should just do for the heck of it. The setup came, and it went. It may not come again for the next two years. So don't do something like this unless you have tested it thoroughly and are comfortable even losing money on a system like it.