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A Short Take on DLF (Link)

4 comments Written on April 6th, 2011 by
Categories: DLF, Stocks

In a recent Conversations piece, I spoke with Ramki about a few stocks, and in them was DLF. There has been a dangerous upmove in DLF since (and we were bearish); so at MarketVision I've posted that Ramki mentioned how DLF has gone counter to his analysis (kudos for the admission!) and so on.

Also see my view, a Short Take of 6 minutes on where I think DLF is going and what I did. Disclosure: Long with a covered call.

Note: I don't want to replicate the content here. Since MarketVision is now what I do professionally, I'll be posting educational material and videos at MarketVision, and all my personal views here at Capital Mind. When I post there, I'll post links here at Capital Mind. One consolidated link per day, so I don't spam you!

Do let me know your thoughts.

DLF Results and Technicals

5 comments Written on May 16th, 2010 by
Categories: DLF

DLF threw out impressive results. EPS moved up from 0.94 in the fourth quarter to Rs. 2.51, a fairly large gain. The folks at LiveMint aren’t impressed though. Realizations per sq. ft. have fallen from 5,000 to 4,180. They sold about 12.5 million sq. ft. in the whole year, lower than the 15 million expected, and the costs are now skewed towards interest (they cut salaries, land costs but interest nearly doubled) Even on a yearly basis, they have a consolidated EPS of 10.18; substantially lower than the Rs. 26 they had last year.

The stock’s recovered from the lows of 120 early last year, but has sorta peaked out, volumes have dropped, and it’s below long term moving averages. A the lower end supports are at 280 and then at 255. The stocks been very rangebound, but in the very short term I wouldn’t go short on it. It’s been losing steam on declining volumes, and there’s some early signs of a short term upswing to perhaps the 320 levels..

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If anything the stock has great options premium, so I’d sell some deep OTM calls (disclosure: have already done that this month and booked my profits) or call spreads around the 360 levels, for June.

DLF says house prices might be going up

5 comments Written on June 8th, 2009 by
Categories: DLF
Mint: DLF sees property prices going up
DLF Ltd, India’s largest listed real estate firm, sees signs of recovery in the country’s beaten down residential property sector and expects prices to start firming up, a senior official said on Monday.

Still, Rajeev Talwar, group executive director at the developer, said projects needed to be priced aggressively in order to sell.

Talwar told Reuters in an interview a stable government and a view that the economy may be improving would help demand for real estate, after a property slump that analysts said has seen prices crashing by up to half.

“I think we’ve done a fair amount on price correction, realistic pricing or aggressive pricing as it may be called,” Talwar said.

“I think all Indians have imposed their faith to very immediate economic revival, rather than long term,” Talwar said.

This is something I've started to hear from other sources - that prices are holding. But there are still very few transactions. Construction, though, seems to be back - in Gurgaon, I see hitherto abandoned projects getting a new lease of life. This is good - getting houses complete is important, because when some of them eventually go bust, there will be something left for the vultures to buy. Let's face it, there is oversupply in the premium segment, so some will go bust.

There doesn't seem to be an index or any real data on the residential segment so I can't say if prices really are holding. I see that brokers are trying their level best to keep listed prices steady. Real estate is a very slow and opaque segment so it could take months or years to really correct.

Interestingly, DLF is not quite so bullish on commercial properties. Their Andheri project in Mumbai is on the block, and it opted out of it's Kolkata SEZ project among others.

In other news, DLF dropped 10% today, to end at 365. With a past P/E of 27, it's not exactly cheap, but hey, residential prices are picking up!

DLF’s Westend Heights Project (Bangalore) in Trouble

13 comments Written on May 9th, 2009 by
Categories: DLF
DLF has gotten a reprimand from the BBMP - Bangalore's Mahanagar Palike, or Municipal council on it's Westend Heights project.
The BBMP has cautioned the public from booking apartments in this project as the builder has not taken approval from the competent authority. In a public advertisement dated April 26, DLF had announced opening of bookings for its proposed apartments and said the Bangalore Development Authority’s (BDA) approval had been obtained to build up to four floors. The BBMP said according to the advertisement, the apartment complex consists of 18 floors and not four as mentioned. The project consists of 1,980 units spread across 19 towers that are stilt+18 floors high.
The actual ad is below (click for a larger picture)

While getting actual sactions later is common, it's obvious that DLF hasn't even done the basic groundwork of what it takes to get BBMP on the same page. It must be quite a crisis to get slapped on the wrist from those they would scramble to keep happy at any cost.

Btw, Moneycontrol says 600 homes have been sold. I hope they get their money back. But at this point I wouldn't hold my breath.

I have decided NEVER to buy a house that isn't ready to move in immediately. Builders will delay. They will change specs and you won't be able to do anything. And then, they will over charge and under-deliver on maintenance because they can. My parents have had a lot more trouble due to this, and I've learnt from them, and now from a number of friends stuck with yet-to-arrive homes, that a house is a house when it's ready to move in.

Hey, I might even buy land and build my house - why not, at least I have some level of control there. But a paper plan from a "reputed" builder? No way.

Real Estate: Debt Load Immense

No Comments » Written on April 10th, 2009 by
Categories: DLF, RealEstate
From LiveMint: Real Estate cos headed for a debt trap?
People familiar with the developments say DLF’s debt is around Rs15,000 crore. On an average, the company delivers 10-11 million sq. ft per year. If we take the average cost of interest at 13%, DLF’s interest burden for FY10 will be Rs1,950 crore. That means the company will have to pay Rs163 crore every month and that’s just the interest component. Even if DLF is able to sell 10 million sq. feet at an average price of Rs3,000 a sq. foot, it will generate sales of Rs3,000 crore. However, typically just 20% of booking amount is paid upfront by customers. Going by that logic, DLF can expect an inflow of Rs600 crore. Compare that to the Rs1,950 crore of interest burden that DLF will have to pay in FY10.

Unitech’s story, sources say, is no different. With a debt burden of Rs8,000 crore, it will have to bear an interest burden of Rs1,040 crore. Assuming that one apartment of Unitech sells for Rs40 lakh, the company will have to pre-sell 10,400 apartments to generate Rs1040 crore.

There are others too in the same boat. HDIL’s debt figure is Rs4,000 crore. The company is launching projects aggressively. It had two launches in March and five others are planned later this year. Not surprising, since at 13% interest cost, the firm will have to bear Rs520 crore just as interest burden. The question several analysts are asking is will the pre-sale amount suffice for both servicing the interest cost and construction costs as well? Or is a delay in these new projects inevitable?

Sobha Developers have just 1,500 apartments ready for sale. The company has debt of Rs1,850 crore and the interest that it will have to pay is Rs241 crore. Sobha Developers has two launches planned later this year. While Sobha’s land bank may be 3,000 acres, just 23 acres is under construction. Company sources have confirmed that it will take additional debt to service interest cost burden in FY10. And industry players fear, several others will follow suit.

With a recovery in prices - DLF is up over 70% in a couple months, and Unitech close to 30% - it seemed like the worst was over. This debt seems to show these companies have the worst ahead of them. DLF in particular seems to be getting on the wrong side of news.

DE Shaw and Symphony want to get out of DLF Assets Limited, the KP Singh owned company which buys all of DLF's properties (and thus is responsible for DLF's revenue). They've invested $1.05 billion together in DAL, and buying them out will not be easy.

DAL owes DLF 5,500 crore. Don't you love it when you can sell your properties to yourself, and show it as revenue? But I digress. DAL doesn't have the moolah, so they're trying all sorts of things. They wanted to merge DLF and DAL - that way, no receivables. But that's not going to be easy as both Symphony and DE Shaw want out, and all the murkiness that was shoved by DLF under DAL's carpet will now become visible - not desirable.

DLF/DAL have now raised 1,100 cr. from HDFC Bank. DLF is also looking to sell its hotel plots, its wind power plants. Customers seem to want refunds on unfinished projects. Commercial rentals are in some trouble, with some mall retailers shutting shop demanding lower rentals.

DLF's stock, meanwhile, is going through some serious short covering - it was nearly at the Market Wide Position Limit last month, and the sharp rise must have killed a lot of levered shorts; the covering is killing them some more. The results will not be good - we all know that anyway - but it might not be as bad as one thinks either, because this stuff can take months to play out. So the stock continues on its uptrend, but one needs to be careful and keep a reasonably close stop loss.

DLF, Unitech hike square feet, instead of prices

2 comments Written on December 15th, 2008 by
Categories: DLF, RealEstate, Unitech
From Mint:
Buyers who bought apartments in Gurgaon and Greater Noida from DLF Ltd and Unitech Ltd are complaining that the builders have increased maintenance charges, sought advance payment of such charges, and increased the so-called super built-up area of their flat resulting in an escalation of costs.
When you can't raise per-square-foot rates, you increase the square feet.

This happened to my in-laws in Gurgaon. When they wanted to take possession they were told that out of nowhere the "super built up" area was up about 5%, without any increase in carpet area of the apartment. And given that buyers are not given detailed layout plans, it's impossible to verify this claim. They can simply say, look, we added this garden which wasn't there when we sold you the plot. You have to cough it up.

My dad bought a flat in 1980 and we got possession in 1992, after paying double the amount we had initially booked at - because the builder raised his hands in 1987 and said I need double the amount or I go bust.

Other friends have been told they won't be paid interest on delays. Or that their "club membership" has gone up. Or that parking fees are unfortunately double. Same house, same square feet, higher total price.

Two experiences, one lesson: Never buy a flat that is unfinished. Let the builder finish it, and even let someone else occupy or rent it out, and only then buy - it'll be cheaper in the long run.